Manolo Martínez
9 months ago
I come to Friendica looking for @Thomas Willingham opinions on Beloki, Ulrich and the zombie Tours of the early '00s.
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Manolo Martínez
9 months ago
I think I agree: no winner for ca 10 years should do it. Are the contemporary Tours much worse than what Bahamontes or Anquetil used to climb? Much more difficult, I mean.
Thomas Willingham
9 months ago from The Free Web
It's hard to say.

Routes are much shorter than they used to be, and all have much better roads (dirt tracks and cobbles used to be normal, now riders protest about them). The Tour de France has fewer mountains than it used to, and less Time Trialling. The Vuelta has more mountain top finishes than ever, but fewer mountains in total, whereas the Giro d'Italia tends to be as hard as it ever was (except this year, which was deliberately "easy"). Of course, because it's shorter, it's also faster...and you can't just compare speeds, because a lot of it is flat, and can be accounted for by drafting.

The closest you'll get to comparing eras is to compare power outputs on the climbs, and it's best to do that for one day races (like classique des alpes - in the mountains, drafting isn't too important) where fatigue isn't a factor, weather reports are available to adjust for wind speed, and the route barely changes.

The clearest way to see why I think "everybody dopes" is to race at a high level (high being top end junior in my case, or amateur-who-gets-invited-to-pro-am-events in other cases). Almost everybody does it. They talk about drugs like we talk about Friendica; it's the one thing everybody has in common.